Let's Talk Politics!
It's true. This is an election year like none other. It's history in the making.
What are your opinions about the candidates? I have some rather strong opinions and have been raised to keep them out of polite society (ha ha - when am I ever around politie society?) so this is going to be difficult for me.
Keep in mind that each of one us is entitled to his/her own opinion.
Sometimes you can even enlighten others with educational facts.
Rules are as follows: Play nice, hold your punches and no name calling.
What would you like to say about the candidates or this year's election?
Ready, set, .... go.
First of all, are you REGISTERED to vote? And, do you plan to exercise your right to vote this year?
posted by LindaWright @ 12:30 PM
21 comments
21 Comments:
effin' A I'm registered!....but this is the first time ever I'm considering not voting at all.....I really thought we'd have a woman or a black vice prez before either would have the top job......sort of slide in easliy so to spaek instead of the whole ball of wax at once.....so in my opinion that puts both dems at a disadvantage......and we need more gop guidance like....well....as you say it's polite society so I better not go there......I just couldn't believe that our country wanted 4 more years of w after his first term......I'm wholely disgusted w/ the system...it's broke & we're gonna have a tough time fixing it.....and I'll do ya all a favor & leave it at that....
I have a question for you, Talk, and, anyone else who cares to respond.
What qualities do you want to see in your next President?
Do ANY of the candidates meet your expectations?
Frankly, my gut instinct was with Huckabee but now what...
I'm not opposed to having a black or a woman President but I want a candidate that I can respect and, at this point, I need more convincing.
gotta get ready to go to a funeral, here....will get back to ya later, Babe.....;-)
I'm with ya Linda, Huckabee would have been my choice. What I expect from a president is not that he will be able to change the world but to keep it safe for the future.I do not want a Preacher who is only in the position he is in because he is black. If that were the case and so many want a black president,why not Colin Powell or Condy Rice. Two WELL qualified candidates and then you can leave color out because that is the only thing Obama has is NOVELTY.And as far as Hillary is concerned, she is sleeping with the enemy(or maybe not)McCain is OK but I want Huckabee.
Darn tootin' I'm a registered voter. Took care of that when I got my NC drivers license.
Here's my take on the candidates.
Queen Hillary: The only people she is likely to serve is herself. She has been grooming herself for this opportunity for her whole life and will step on anyone who gets in her way. Be afraid...very afraid. I'd like to know what constitutes 35 years of experience. Be prepared for higher taxes and more rights taken away from the average American. She wants change but at what price to the working, tax paying people.
Preacher Broncobama: Passionate speaker. Draws a good crowd of equally passionate people. Kinda reminds me of the Pied Piper. I'm not going to go into the 20 year association with his pastor but since when did church become a political circus? Church is for worship and to teach the word of God. Just my opinion. Again, senator Obama shouts about change. How does he propose to bring about these changes? Let's hear more about solutions.
War hero McCain: Seems sincere in his speeches about putting a halt to earmarks. Puts national security and keeping terrorism at bay as the top priority for the USA. What about the economy? Well folks, part of our economic mess is our own fault. Most people are sheep and follow the crowd. Do we really need that McMansion that we really cannot afford? Do we really need to make all our purchases with plastic with the 21% interest rate? How many of us look at lables of the things we purchase to see the country of origin? When did Wal-Mart become little China? Does anyone remember when you could go to Wal-Mart and actually find most things has a USA lable?
Anyhoo...McCain wants to keep an American presence in Iraq until that country is stable. Will that day ever come? Who knows. I do know that it is better to keep troops there than to bring them all home and have to deploy them to the big sandbox again. Now that is costly! Give the troops the support and equipment to do the job they were trained to do. Yes it is costly financially and in lives lost. But would you rather fight these terror mongers on our own soil? McCain was not my first choice. I will be curious who will become his running mate.
I liked Fred Thompson. He is the only guy who didn't sugar coat the way things are. He had solid answers. I also thought John Edwards seemed sincere in his passionate speeches about bringing jobs back to America. Mike Huckabee gave intelligent answers and also seemed sincere. All those guys are out of the race. Will any become the running mates to the ones left? That remains to be seen.
Hey Talk, I don't think it was that the country wanted 4 more years of w. It was a vote against Kerry, or to be non PC, Mr. Heinz.
The MOST important thing all of us can do is to look at the issues. Look at the voting records of the candidates. Become informed and do not be sheep and just follow the flock. Vote your own informed conscious. My parting words (thank God) are:
GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow Carla, that was awesome. I do not think it has been said better by anyone I've listened to,YOU ROCK< I can't remember but you gotta be from Cottage Hills, You write well just like HiLo
I hate to even get started.....not gonna change a darn thing....I appreciate and see each of your points.... kinda liked war vet McCain....until he said he'd keep us in Iraq forever, basically.... I just don't see how 4000 of our best and brightest dying has gained us anything....and the people are not behind it...anyone remember Viet Nam?....did we learn anything there?...they drug us into it w/ a bunch of lies....it's all about money and power....and until our govt changes to serve the people instead of themselves it's not gonna change....the only thing politicians fear is not getting elected...and they'll say/do anything to achieve that end.....I'm not really for any of the above choices......usually it's best for things to change and one party not stay in power too long...it's a damn shame when the supposed leader of the free world can't even pronounce NUCULAR correctly....geeze....like i said.....I'm seriously considering not voting...like Linda I definately need more convincing but I'm already tired of it all....
Comparing Viet Nam to the War in Iraq doesn't seem fair because... those in Viet Nam, for the most part, were drafted as opposed to those in Iraq enlisted in the military of their own free will. I truly admire our military because of their committments to our country.
Whether we SHOULD even be in Iraq, or not, is moot at this point. But, since we ARE there, we need to finish it and quit pussyfooting around. I say we ensure that our military have the proper equipment needed to do their jobs effectively and efficiently. And, then, LET them to go kick some butt!
There is waaaaaaaaaaaay too much political correctedness going on in our wars defeating the whole purpose of being there!
The similarity I see to Vietnam is that they are still not letting the military run it and win, you are right Linda about the political correctness that is what is similar.
Let us not forget too that all decisions are not made by the president alone. Congress votes on many of the issues and changes or lack thereof. I understand that Congress is about keeping checks and balances but when the Democtats and Republicans disagree on issues just to disagree because of party affiliation, that defets the purpose of the whole process. A lot of time and money is wasted and nothing of value gets accomplished.
The Viet Nam conflict, war was never enacted, was the longest "war" in American history and nearly 60,000 American lives were lost, not to mention the nearly 350,000 casualties. American troop have been engaged in fighting in Iraq for about six years and only 4000 American lives have been lost. Not that any loss of life should be thought of as acceptable but in any conflict or war there is expected to be loss. My heart goes out to the families of those men and women who have given their lives for the freedom of the people of Iraq. As for being in Iraq forever I have to say, look how long American troops have been in Korea. Granted, the troops there are no longer involved in combat as in Iraq but there is always opportunity with the crazy North Korean in power.
Regardless of who is president, I am grateful to live in a country where we can express our freedom of speech and voice our opinions. I totally agree that government needs to serve the people instead of themselves...great point Dennis. It seems government has a separate agenda from what our forefathers had in mind...what ever happened to the we the people in government? Power? Money? Greed? Yes!
I too am about sick of this whole election mess. I was hoping for a great leader who could turn this country around but I just don't see that quality in the choices put before us. Will I still vote. Yes I will. Once again it will come down to the lesser of the two evils. In closing I say, God Bless America! We are going to need devine guidance in the coming election.
Let us not forget too that all decisions are not made by the president alone. Congress votes on many of the issues and changes or lack thereof. I understand that Congress is about keeping checks and balances but when the Democtats and Republicans disagree on issues just to disagree because of party affiliation, that defets the purpose of the whole process. A lot of time and money is wasted and nothing of value gets accomplished.
The Viet Nam conflict, war was never enacted, was the longest "war" in American history and nearly 60,000 American lives were lost, not to mention the nearly 350,000 casualties. American troop have been engaged in fighting in Iraq for about six years and only 4000 American lives have been lost. Not that any loss of life should be thought of as acceptable but in any conflict or war there is expected to be loss. My heart goes out to the families of those men and women who have given their lives for the freedom of the people of Iraq. As for being in Iraq forever I have to say, look how long American troops have been in Korea. Granted, the troops there are no longer involved in combat as in Iraq but there is always opportunity with the crazy North Korean in power.
Regardless of who is president, I am grateful to live in a country where we can express our freedom of speech and voice our opinions. I totally agree that government needs to serve the people instead of themselves...great point Dennis. It seems government has a separate agenda from what our forefathers had in mind...what ever happened to the we the people in government? Power? Money? Greed? Yes!
I too am about sick of this whole election mess. I was hoping for a great leader who could turn this country around but I just don't see that quality in the choices put before us. Will I still vote. Yes I will. Once again it will come down to the lesser of the two evils. In closing I say, God Bless America! We are going to need devine guidance in the coming election.
Yoy go girl, and also watch the movie 'V for Vendetta.
The Patriotic Pillow Project is a nationwide effort to provide comfort to soldiers who were wounded in Iraq. Each pillow is made by volunteers to resemble our flag and is sent along with a handwritten note of thanks. The instructions are very simple and basic knowledge of sewing is all that's needed. Pass this along to anyone who can sew.
http://www.patrioticpillowproject.org/p3/
Helen,
I checked out that website. What a wonderful way to show our wounded soldiers that someone cares and that they are not forgotten.
Carla, for those that do not sew they also accept cards. Of course the messages are to be uplifting in nature with absolutely no political statements. I made and sent cases about a year ago and just sorry that they are still needed. I figure if I can get my husband to cut the strips I will take a day and sew as many as I can.
Guess I need to drag out my sewing machine. For the past couple of years I have made a donation through the USO for a care package that they put together for our military folks who are being deployed overseas. Each package includes stuff like wet wipes, international prepaid phone card, tioletries, sunscreen, and other useful items. The USO distributes a care package at the USO center located in airports. I wrote a personal note with each donation letting the receipiant know that I appreciate their service and hoped that the small token of support brightened their day. I wished them well in general. Anyone interested in making such a donation can do so online at:
https://www.uso.org/donate/custom.aspx?id=565&p=353
I realize this is off the subject from the election. That might be a good thing for me. Ha!
Yes it's off the subject of elections but it's a good subject to interject.. Who could disagree about sending comfort to our sons, daughters, brothers, sisters, neices, nephews (I have two nephews that served) friends, neighbors, etc...I mean that IS who they are.
Just a personal comment ....I've been a part of the online communtity of message boards, lists, forums and groups for about 15 years. The membership of most of these groups are very diverse with one common interest that tied everyone together such as crafts or dogs or whatever..in this case our graduating class. More often than not too much political talk can be the kiss of death for the membership. Unlike many other topics, that of politics is often very personal and sometimes a conflicting opinion may come off as an attack. Sad to say but on the other forums I've lost some really neat people(democrats and republicans) due to political discussions. NOW,I'm not saying this about any of you in the above comments but just hoping people will be careful how they present their opinions since it can be a delicate subject in mixed company.
Speaking of registered voters. This was posted on one of the other boards I go to by my friend Deb. I've copied and pasted it here..some might find it interesting.
Subject: Night of Terror Nov 17,1917
Thought you might appreciate this.
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I received this from someone on the internet. Snopes had nothing but if you Google Occoquan Workhouse you can verify it. We all need to register and vote.
How Women Got To Vote: A short history reminder on the privilege of voting...
The women were innocent and defenseless. And by the end of the night, they were barely alive.
Forty prison guards wielding clubs and their warden's blessing went on a rampage against the 33 women wrongly convicted of "obstructing sidewalk traffic."
They beat Lucy Burn, chained her hands to the cell bars above her head and left her hanging for the night, bleeding and gasping for air. They hurled Dora Lewis into a dark cell, smashed her head against an iron bed
andknocked her out cold.
Her cellmate, Alice Cosu, thought Lewis was dead and suffered a heart attack. Additional affidavits describe the guards grabbing, dragging, beating, choking, slamming, pinching, twisting and kicking the women.
Thus unfolded the "Night of Terror" on Nov. 15, 1917, when the warden at the Occoquan Workhouse in Virginia ordered his guards to teach a lesson to the suffragists imprisoned there because they dared to picket Woodrow Wilson's White House for the right to vote.
For weeks, the women's only water came from an open pail. Their food--all ofit colorless slop--was infested with worms. When one of the leaders, Alice Paul, embarked on a hunger strike, they tied her to a chair, forced a tube down her throat and poured liquid into her until she vomited. She was tortured like this for weeks until word was smuggled out to the press.
So, refresh my memory. Some women won't vote this year because--why,exactly? We have carpool duties? We have to get to work? Our vote doesn't matter? It's raining?
Last week, I went to a sparsely attended screening of HBO's new movie "Iron Jawed Angels." It is a graphic depiction of the battle these women waged so that I could pull the curtain at the polling booth and have my say. I am ashamed to say I needed the reminder.
All these years later, voter registration is still my passion. But the actual act of voting had become less personal for me, more rote. Frankly, voting often felt more like an obligation than a privilege. Sometimes it was inconvenient.
My friend Wendy, who is my age and studied women's history, saw the HBO movie, too. When she stopped by my desk to talk about it, she looked angry. She was--with herself. "One thought kept coming back to me as I watched that movie," she said.
"What would those women think of the way I use--or don't use--my right to vote? All of us take it for granted now, not just younger women, but those of us who did seek to learn." The right to vote, she said, had become valuable to her "all over again."
HBO will run the movie periodically before releasing it on video and DVD. I wish all history, social studies and government teachers would include the movie in their curriculum. I want it shown on Bunko night, too, and anywhere else women gather.
I realize this isn't our usual idea of socializing, but we are not voting in the numbers that we should be, and I think a little shock therapy is in order.
It is jarring to watch Woodrow Wilson and his cronies try to persuade a psychiatrist to declare Alice Paul insane so that she could be permanently institutionalized. And it is inspiring to watch the doctor refuse. Alice Paul was strong, he said, and brave. That didn't make her crazy. The doctor admonished the men: "Courage in women is often mistaken for insanity."
Deborah Byron LTG, PMN
Helen,
I saw the HBO movie "Iron Jawed Angels" about a year or so ago. It has always made me a bit angry that women in that time were expected to bow down to the will of men. I'm not a feminist or womens libber but us gals have come a long way and I am grateful. Women of today can thank those sufferage women for paving the way for a better life and the right to vote for women.
My parents instilled in me the importance of voting. Over the years I have voted Democrat, Republican, and I think I even voted independant once. The important thing is that I exercise my right to vote. Sure I get discouraged and wonder if my measley little vote makes a difference. I still get out there and vote.
YES, I am a registered voter. I have voted in every election since I became a legal voter. I have never considered "not voting". You never know, as in Florida, when just 1 vote can make a difference.
As far as Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Obama are concerned, I wouldn't vote for them for ANYTHING and especially not to lead our great nation. I believe that would be a vote to throw out the "Bill of Rights" and this is not acceptable to me. There are some things about Mr. McCain that I don't like, but for the most part, he is, YES, "the lesser of the evils".
IMHO
Debbi, I agree. The politicians need to let the Military Leaders run the war/wars. I don't know about WW I, but WW II, Korea, Viet Nam, history has repeated itself. The polical agendas of the reigning presidents have influenced the outcome. When will they learn. They need to play to WIN, instead of playing to NOT LOOSE.
I have no answers, only questions. All I can do is to study and stay as informed as I can and then try to make the best choice I can, for America.
Whom ever you choose to vote for, be sure you do all you can to be as informed and educated on the candidate and his/her position on the issues. That's all any of us can do. Then cast your vote and let you voice be heard.
God Bless America...
Yea for the Cookieman! Thanks for expressing your opinion.
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